A Comprehensive List of iRacing Cars & Tracks

"ncasolowork2" (ncasolowork2)
04/09/2014 at 11:53 • Filed to: None

The Forza 5 Long Beach announcement prompted a discussion about !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and I realized there's no handy list anywhere of all the cars and tracks at !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . There is on their site, but not organized like this. Here's a complete list and a picture of Long Beach for your troubles.

Feel free to ask any questions about any of the cars or tracks or about !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! in general.

Tracks:

Oval:

Daytona
Indianapolis
Auto Club Speedway (California)
Charlotte Motor Speedway
Michigan International Speedway
Pocono Raceway
Kansas Speedway
Thompson International Speedway
Dover International Speedway
Twin Ring Motegi
Darlington
Iowa Speedway
Kentucky Speedway
New Smyrna Speedway
Talladega Superspeedway
Texas Motor Speedway
Rockingham Speedway
Atlanta Motor Speedway
Phoenix International Raceway
The Milwaukee Mile
Richmond International Raceway
Las Vegas Motor Speedway
Martinsville Speedway
New Hampshire Motor Speedway
Concord Motorsport Park
Chicagoland Speedway
Stafford Motor Speedway
Homestead Miami Speedway
Oxford Plains Speedway
Lanier National Speedway
USA International Speedway
Irwindale Speedway
Langley Speedway
Bristol Motor Speedway
South Boston
Indianapolis Raceway Park (due in 2 weeks)

Road:

Australian
Mount Panorama (Bathurst)
Oran Park
Phillip Island Circuit

British
Silverstone
Oulton Park
Brands Hatch
Donnington Park (licensed due out soon)
Croft Circuit (licensed not yet built)
Mallory Park (licensed not yet built)
Snetterton (licensed not yet built)
Thruxton Circuit (licensed not yet built)

Canadian
Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve
Canadian Tire Motorsport Park (Mosport)

Europe
Circuit Zolder (Belgium)
Circuit de Spa Francochamps (Belgium)
Circuit Park Zandvoort (Netherlands)
Monza (Italy) (licensed due out in the fall)
Imola (Italy) (licensed not yet built)

Japan
Suzuka Circuit
Twin Ring Motegi
Okayama International Circuit
Tsukuba (licensed not built)

American
Watkins Glen International
Road America
Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course
Sebring Intnational Raceway
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
Sonoma
Road Atlanta
Lime Rock Park
Virginia International Raceway
Summit Point
Barber Motorsports Park
Circuit of the Americas (due in 2 weeks)
Long Beach Grand Prix (available with unfinished art work)
New Jersey Motorsports Park (available with unfinished art work)
Willow Springs (licensed not yet built)
Miller Motorsports Park (licensed not yet built)

South America
Interlagos (Auto dromo Jose Carlos Pace)

Also keep in mind that some of the ovals have ROvals that are raced like Daytona, Indianapolis, and Kansas. A number of the ovals also have road courses for other events that are available in iRacing but aren't frequently raced on.

Cars
Oval:
Ford Fusion Gen6 Sprint Cup Car
Chevrolet SS Gen6 Sprint Cup Car
Toyota Camry Gen6 Sprint Cup Car (due as soon as the contract is sign car is built)
Chevrolet Impala SS Nationawide Car
Ford Mustang Nationwide Car
Chevrolet Silverado
Chevrolet National Impala (old Nationwide car now an ARCA car)
Super Late Model
Monte Carlo SS Late Model
Tour Modified
SK Modified
JR Motosports Street Stock
Ford '34 Coupe
Chevrolet Impala SS COT Sprint Cup Car
C&R Racing Silvercrown Car
Sprint Car

Road :
Williams FW31 2009 F1 car
Dallara Indy Car (IR07)
Dallara Indy Car (DW12 due out in May)
Lotus 49
Lotus 79
Star Mazda (formula mazda)
Skip Barber Formula 2000
HPD ARX 01c (old LMP2 car)
Riley MKXX Daytona Prototype
Radical SR8 V8
SCCA Spec Racer
Chevrolet C6.R
RUF Rt 12-R (there are 3 or 4 version of this car and it is a workaround for the Porsche license) (running in GT3 spec)
BMW Z4 GT3 (due in 2 weeks)
Ford V8 Supercar
Holden V8 Supercar (due soon)
Ford GT (former GT2 car to be converted to GT3 spec)
McLaren Mp4-12C GT3
Cadillac CTS-V
KIA Optima
Mazda MX-5 Cup (MIATA!)
Mazda MX-5 Roadster (MIATA FOR PEOPLE WHO DRIVE ON THE WRONG SIDE!)
Ford Mustang FR500S
Volkswagen Jetta TDI
Pontiac Solstice Club Sport

Licensed but not yet built:

There's a BMW E92 GT2 a Honda Super GT a BTCC Honda Civic and another BMW that slips my mind. Also an Indy Lights car and a few more I'm sure I'm forgetting. iRacing is hoping to revise their LMP2 car and their Daytona Prototype to current gen bodywork and specs to get them running in the same class.

Some things that iRacing does that usually makes people say: iRacing does that?

In car adjustments are available. Things such as diff settings on the F1 car, brake bias, Weight Jacker on an Indy Car etc.

Dynamic weather. The weather settings are static once the session starts (for now) but can be changed. Yes this matters. It affects downforce, fuel consumption, the effects of the draft, track temperature (meaning grip levels) and a lot more.

Measures track altitude. Why does this matter? Less oxygen = less horsepower.

Yellow flags. Wreck on an oval? Yellow comes out and follows pit stop procedures. In the NASCAR series this even means the lucky dawg (bleh!)

Fixed setup racing. But it's a simulator! (yes but some people aren't interested in working on setups and just want to race. They have that)

Race lengths are 20 minutes - 4 hours (Coke 600)

Average field size is 20-25 with a maximum of 63

You can use photoshop to paint your cars.

DISCUSSION (100)

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 12:01

Yet again, iRacing > *

I really need to find a good deal on some Fanatec pedals. My DFGT pedals are starting to become an issue.

ddavidn > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 12:03

I need to get back to iRacing... Problem is that it takes up all my time because it's super fun....

ncasolowork2 > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 12:23

Sorry for the Cars post it won't be as formatted. F U kinja

Oval:
Ford Fusion Gen6 Sprint Cup Car
Chevrolet SS Gen6 Sprint Cup Car
Toyota Camry Gen6 Sprint Cup Car (due as soon as the contract is sign car is built)
Chevrolet Impala SS Nationawide Car
Ford Mustang Nationwide Car
Chevrolet Silverado
Chevrolet National Impala (old Nationwide car now an ARCA car)
Super Late Model
Monte Carlo SS Late Model
Tour Modified
SK Modified
JR Motosports Street Stock
Ford '34 Coupe
Chevrolet Impala SS COT Sprint Cup Car
C&R Racing Silvercrown Car
Sprint Car

Licensed but not yet built:

ddavidn > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 12:31

Which one is your favorite?

ncasolowork2 > ddavidn
04/09/2014 at 12:34

Car track or both?

ddavidn > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 12:38

Sure! Both!

ncasolowork2 > ddavidn
04/09/2014 at 12:45

It used to be the Acura HPD ARX-o1c, but the current physics mean the fastest setup is always using the Le Mans aero kit. That means almost no downforce at tracks like Silverstone which is brutal. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'm going to love the DW12 when it comes out. I'd like them even more if they required less complicated setup work. Mooching off friends is tiresome. Either way whatever it is it has to have a flappy paddle gearbox or I struggle.

For favorite track I think Mid Ohio. The racing there isn't the greatest, but I really enjoy the track. Circuit of the Americas may take over for Mid Ohio here shortly. Incidentally here are a few tracks I hate.

Interlagos (no defined braking zones in sweeping corners is difficult on consistency)

Phillip Island (an uphill and sharp downhill fast left hander in to a hairpin is no fun)

ddavidn > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 12:52

My favorite car so far is the Solstice... Because I've only drive that, the Miata, and some oval cars which I am rubbish at.

I have to flappy paddle as well. Otherwise I get too frustrated.

Bakkster, touring car driver > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 12:55

The other BMW is either the S2000 320i or the NGTC 1-series, both from BTCC. They've also signed a Corvette DP.

Wikipedia is kind enough to also track the number of configurations for each track.

ncasolowork2 > ddavidn
04/09/2014 at 12:56

Of all the cars I can say my least favorite on the entire service is the Solstice. It wants to swap ends so badly it might as well run ass first. There's absolutely no weight in the rear of the car and the car isn't running on racing tires. You should try the Cadillac. In a couple weeks they'll be adding an advanced traction control system like they run in real life on a number of cars. Should make the Caddy more enjoyable.

reciprocating > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 12:56

I love Mid-Ohio (in real life) No matter what I have driven there, (TSX, S2K, E30 Spec Boxster and C5 Z06) that track is amazing, particularly Madness and China Beach.

ncasolowork2 > reciprocating
04/09/2014 at 12:59

There's just one really annoying turn in some of the faster iRacing cars. Cresting into thunder alley and trying to put the power down as the track is totally falling away from you is a pain.

User1312 > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:00

Kia Optima?

o.O

One of these things is not like the others...

ncasolowork2 > reciprocating
04/09/2014 at 13:00

Here's a link to a youtube video of why I like Mid Ohio. I'm the Blue Jetta.

lq9e30 > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:00

I worked at 32 Crosby for a while and always wanted to swing by and see what you guys did. I regret not doing so.

Bakkster, touring car driver > ddavidn
04/09/2014 at 13:01

The SRF has to be my favorite car of all time, so easy to have close racing with it. The Mustang is a close second, so easy to drive but wicked hard to drive fast. I've been racing the Ruf C-Spec currently, basically the 911 Cup car.

Road America, Mid-Ohio, and Brands Hatch Indy are probably my favorite tracks.

ncasolowork2 > User1312
04/09/2014 at 13:01

Rumor has it KIA paid iRacing to get the car in the service. It races in the Pirelli World Challenge series. Cadillac has a really nice racing simulator that they take to each race weekend and I'm wondering if KIA got jealous.

Bakkster, touring car driver > ddavidn
04/09/2014 at 13:02

That's not a 'problem'. :)

ncasolowork2 > lq9e30
04/09/2014 at 13:02

For the record I don't actually work for iRacing. I just really enjoy using the service.

reciprocating > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:04

and a little bit frightening... refresh my memory, is thunder ally on the far side of the track where it is after a blind right hander through the esses?

ncasolowork2 > reciprocating
04/09/2014 at 13:10

Yes. So the turn I hate is the blind right hander cresting in to thunder alley.

ddavidn > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:12

I can try the Cadillac, but can't enter any races with the Cadillac, as far as I know. I could be wrong. I'm very new.

ddavidn > Bakkster, touring car driver
04/09/2014 at 13:12

It IS a problem!

ncasolowork2 > Bakkster, touring car driver
04/09/2014 at 13:16

I honestly don't think I have turned more than 2 or 3 laps in the SCCA because when I was a rookie I was told it was so hard to drive. Plus all the setup options and I was just like ehh no. Maybe I'll give it a try when it comes up in the Road Warrior series.

ncasolowork2 > ddavidn
04/09/2014 at 13:17

If you get your safety rating up to R3.0 you can race the Cadillac. Getting your safety rating up is actually not hard to do. Just need to learn to control a car and do some time trials or qualifying sessions.

ncasolowork2 > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
04/09/2014 at 13:18

CSP v1 or V2s are a great value. I've had both. I ended up selling my v2s and getting another set of V1s free from a friend. Honestly I'd like to get another set of V2s but the money isn't there at the moment.

ddavidn > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:19

Yeah, I've learned to control it pretty well but have been nailed by newbie Miata drivers a few times in the last races. Sticking to time trials for a while. I'm at 2.84, so it shouldn't be too long.

TheCrudMan > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:20

Annnnd....How much does it cost to get all these cars and tracks?

ncasolowork2 > ddavidn
04/09/2014 at 13:20

A clean time trial should net you 0.07 or 0.08 so 2 and a half time trials. 3 or 4 time trials and you'll be there.

TheCrudMan > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:21

Here's what's keeping me from getting iRacing: there is no free demo for me to download and play with to get my wheel settings and computer settings right. I need to know how well a game is going to work with my setup before I buy it. Although my setup is pretty standard and I am sure it will work fine I still want to FEEL it for myself.

FoxFive0 > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:24

Really really wish the paid subscription was enough to get you all of these cars and tracks for free...

Daltonic > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:26

Just a note about the RUF, you mention GT3 spec (Track version), the C-spec version is roughly equivalent to the current Tudor GTD class (there's a specific Porsche series that uses this spec that I forget the name of off hand) The RWD and AWD versions are just street cars and not built to any specific race spec.

User1312 > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:26

Either Kia paid for it, or someone (or their SO) at iRacing looooooves their Optima.. ;)

ncasolowork2 > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 13:26

Depends on if you get them all at once or one at a time among other things. You can get 30% off the whole thing all cars are $11.95 tracks are $11.95 or $14.95 depending. With that said don't get all the cars get only the ones you want to race and trust me you don't want to race all of them. I have a hard time racing more than one or two at a time.

1 year membership (half off right now) $50

Buy in bulk and you get a 25% discount on content. If you want to have a good range of cars and tracks $200 would get you more than you'll use in your first year. If you race a full season in a couple series iRacing will give you $10 each season so $40 a year. Plus you can take advantage of their discounts on credits and get $100 worth of stuff for $75. Combine that with discounts and it ends up being not too bad. Not when you consider the fact that Forza and or Gran Turismo come out with new titles every 2 years and if you look at Forza it now requires a new console and a new wheel since none of the 360 wheels work. Add DLC in to it and yes iRacing is still more expensive, but you get what you pay for on iRacing the value is there.

TheCrudMan > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:26

The other other thing keeping me from getting iRacing: I don't necessarily want to race. Just practice hot-lapping. Yet...monthly fee for online features I won't use.

TheCrudMan > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:27

They really should add Thunderhill...maybe when Thunderhill west is done? It'll be one of the longer tracks in the US with tons of possible configurations.

ncasolowork2 > FoxFive0
04/09/2014 at 13:29

Right now paid subscription is $50 (half off) for 1 year. If you earn credits by racing ($40 a year) your annual subscription cost is $10. If you take advantage of iRacing credit deals (buy $100 for $75) that $10 cost can be further reduced to $7.50. The cars and tracks are available at a discount if you buy in bulk. If you're interested in signing up send me an email and I might be able to get you a trial membership. rterps@charter.net

ncasolowork2 > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 13:31

Email me rterps@charter.net I'll see what I can do. I got another friend a 1 month trial for this exact reason. They don't make this kind of deal available to the general public because then they get people (like burner accounts here) who come in and screw around.

ncasolowork2 > User1312
04/09/2014 at 13:31

It got rushed through development and put ahead of a number of cars AND nobody was asking for the car. Chances are it was a license that paid iRacing instead of the other way around.

ddavidn > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:32

That'll be my plan, then. I assume the Caddy drivers are a bit more mature than the Miata drivers...

ncasolowork2 > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 13:33

If you're there for hot lapping there isn't the same level of competition that you can get on some of the Forza leaderboards. However, you can pick a car and track each week and try to set the best qualifying time of the week in qualifying sessions (or they have multi-lap average timed time trials but less people do that so qualifying is better competition). Still it isn't as good as Forza in that regard, but it is better than Gran Turismo (which if I understand correctly still has no leaderboard system)

ncasolowork2 > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 13:35

If I'm honest I don't see it happening. They've licensed pretty much every US road course hosting a major north american event. Now that iRacing is recognized globally their focus is on licensing content that will make the biggest overall impact. As an example their last two deals were Monza and Imola. Rumor has it they're close on Hungaroring in Hungary and they're always working on Le Mans.

ncasolowork2 > ddavidn
04/09/2014 at 13:37

Typically yes. Plus there are also the Miata drivers in the Grand Touring Series (D-Class with Jetta and Solstice). Both of those series are better than rookie. Rookies make rookie mistakes.

Senna_ > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 13:41

Well about 1/3 of the content (cars and tracks) come with the initial membership. All rookie content is included.

ddavidn > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:41

I'll admit to making rookie mistakes as well, but usually I just run off the road instead of trying to take the pack down with me.

472CID > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:42

I'm not saying iRacing is a bad value (it's sure a hell of a lot cheaper than actual racing), but it's not even close to console racing $/content. You can buy any Forza or GT for about the same or less than a year's worth of iRacing, and the cost of the gaming machine and controls is null given you'd have to buy it for either. I guess it comes down to if you want that extra 10% of realism or lots of cars/tracks.

TheCrudMan > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:43

Bit of a bummer. Seems like a 4.8 mile road course with a bunch of configurations ANYWHERE in the world would be significant.

ncasolowork2 > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 13:49

Agreed, but keep in mind as an international service (there are as many non-Americans as there are Americans) I'd be willing to bet the number of people who recognize the name is less than 20% of the members. Since the majority of the Americans are NASCAR fans even a lot of them probably don't know it. You should look at all the iRacing configurations for VIR. There are a couple of massively challenging versions that some people like to compare to a mini-Nurburgring.

TheCrudMan > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 13:50

Totally, but why is name recognition important? I'll admit I'm a bit biased since it's one of my three "local" tracks..but you've got Laguna Seca and Sonoma so that might be enough for me.

ncasolowork2 > 472CID
04/09/2014 at 13:52

Yet you have to buy another Forza game every 2 years. And all the DLC content (if you're in to that).

The problem is this argument is a lot harder to make than it was 2 or 3 years ago when I signed up. There was a lot less content. When I signed up I took full advantage of discounts and volume purchases. I spent "$400" to get everything and that only cost me $300 since I used the buy $100 in credits for $75. Since then between new member referrals ($10 for each member who uses you as a reference) and actual racing on track I've not really paid for anything. So I spent $350 on iRacing, but that's about it. We won't talk about what I've spent on my equipment though.

Plus how many actual real world tracks does the current Forza have? iRacing is over 60. The 400 cars or whatever never really did anything for me. I race one or two at a time for a while and then move to another car. The one thing that always changes is the tracks. If you were to look at $/content and do apples to apples (track wise) it narrows the gap even more.

ncasolowork2 > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 14:00

iRacing is missing 1 international mega track. Lets say you're new to iRacing and you've got a choice of any track in the world to purchase (not in the U.S.) what track will you buy first? For me the answer is Le Mans. Then Spa. Then Bathurst. Nurburgring wouldn't be high on my list due to the quality of racing. You've got members from all over the world everywhere thinking about what track to get next. The ones they're familiar with are more than likely going to be at the top of their list to get so they can "live the dream."

In about 14 weeks I suspect iRacing is going to complete their driver swap project. This will allow you to enter in 3/4 man teams in endurance races and change drivers when you make a pit stop. What I want to be able to do more than anything when that feature becomes available is race my own 24 hours of Le Mans with friends.

I think Thunderhill does a 25 hour race? I know it and I'm sure a good portion of the members do as well, but when it comes time to decide what to get Le Mans is going to be more popular than Thunderhill and right now those are the kinds of decisions iRacing is making. Do we try to license Monza or Thunderhill?

They did a video real recently on the track building process. I think they did COTA as fast as they possibly could and it still took 5 months to complete it for release. As it is now they've licensed enough tracks that they've got enough to develop for 2 or 3 years without anything new. Any new agreements end up pushing tracks (like Tsukuba) back in the queue if it is a high enough priority.

quarterlifecrisis > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:03

Does that offer go out to more than just TheCrudMan? I stayed home sick half of today and nearly found myself buying a 1 month free trial, but got distracted and came to work. I'm a hack...decent at GT, but now have my first Desktop PC that will actually run something like this, and getting to run places like Road America and VIR (two tracks I've ran in real life) is incredibly attractive.

ncasolowork2 > quarterlifecrisis
04/09/2014 at 14:07

If you have access to a 1 month free trial that's what I'm going to ask about. Here's the thing. if you think iRacing is something you'd really like take advantage of their new member 1yr $50 promo. I can get you a free month but unless the renewal promo comes up in a month then you've got to pay full price for the year $99. (They usually do a renewal promo in May though but I could be wrong)

Based on the comments from TheCrudMan I'm not sure if iRacing is something he'd really like or not (he likes hot lapping) and he's very skeptical of the price structure. Based on what you've said I think you'd really benefit from half off a 3 month deal or half off 1 year. Either way feel free to email me. (if you decided to sign up for 1 year at half off plug in my email anyhow it is how I keep racing for free!)

TheCrudMan > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:10

All excellent points. FWIW I have to believe licensing thunderhill would be pretty inexpensive.

The prime reason I can think to do it has everything to do with living the dream. Thunderhill is pretty accessible and has a lot of racing that is very grassroots in nature. A lot of people doing inexpensive racing end up there...and a lot of these people are into sim racing.

Bakkster, touring car driver > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:13

It was oversteer happy back on the OTM, but now it's probably one of the most stable road cars. I actually have to work to spin it now, it takes a near suspension-destroying curb to get it to swap ends.

Sounds like a full field SRF race at CotA is being set up for week 13, I'm going to try and make it.

punksmurph > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:18

Kia has a simulator as well, 2 in fact, I set up both of them. They paid for the Optima as a tie in so people can race them when they have events. Personally I drive the Radical SR8 or HDP ARX 01c when testing.

Bakkster, touring car driver > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 14:19

I think they'd love to have basically every track, but priorities at this point will tend to skew toward the big international tracks every time. They get lots of offers from tracks begging to be included, and it seems even most of the international and FIA Grade-1 tracks eventually make a deal that makes their license cost zero or close to it. Instead their limit is time to build the tracks. They can only release 6-8 in any given year, and honestly even a well known club circuit like Thunderhill doesn't stand a chance against Bathurst, Monza, et al.

For reference, they've had NJMP, Willow Springs, Miller, and PBIR signed and scanned since before public release, but none of them have come out because they've been able to sign and release bigger tracks. Presumably, even if they added Thunderhill it would be after at least some of those others which aren't even on the current radar.

Bakkster, touring car driver > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:22

There's a half price subscription promo right now? Where? I need to re-up.

Bakkster, touring car driver > 472CID
04/09/2014 at 14:26

Absolutely correct. The difference between the target market is whether quantity of cars or quality of racing and tracks is more important to you. iRacing isn't for everybody, if you want 200-1000 different cars or street cars it certainly isn't. If you want to be able to race longer, cleaner races with up to 60 race-spec cars on track, then iRacing is for you.

Consoles are better $/content, iRacing is better $/race quality. It's up to you to decide which you're looking for.

If you want an example the methodology put into developing the cars, read this for Forza and watch this for iRacing:

DaveStruve > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:32

I make a pedal kit to convert the v1 brake to a v2 in case your interested. StruveDesigns.com

ncasolowork2 > punksmurph
04/09/2014 at 14:37

I don't know why I never got into the Radical. It seems like a car that would be my thing, but for some reason I tend to be way off pace in it and i have no idea why. So far in the Road Warrior series I've managed to have a top qualifying time each race in a variety of cars. Odd how that car just doesn't suit me.

ncasolowork2 > Bakkster, touring car driver
04/09/2014 at 14:37

new members only.

Bakkster, touring car driver > User1312
04/09/2014 at 14:37

It ain't your mom's Kia. It's a full-on fire-breathing touring car.

Kinja'd!!!

For reference, one of the Kias came 3rd in last year's championship: behind a Camaro and Cayman, in front of a TSX and Boss 302. It's a crazy awesome class of cars, one I hope they get more from so the car has competition.

ncasolowork2 > DaveStruve
04/09/2014 at 14:38

I'm the least DIY person in the world. I need to figure out how to tighten the belts on my CSW since I'm losing center right now and it frustrates me because I can't just look at it and know what to do.

Bakkster, touring car driver > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:39

Got it. Glad I have a few months to sort it out. Two years for $75, FTW!

THEEsnowjob > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:39

What are the chances of getting Pikes Peak added to iRacing?

Saf1 > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:41

Speaking of, all those tracks and no Nurburgring....very surprising! This must have come up before, have they said why it's not a priority to them?

472CID > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:42

It really depends on what your into. If you're not a NASCAR geek, that many ovals seem pretty redundant. That leaves about 40 tracks over a quarter of which aren't available right not which puts it pretty close to Forza 4 and maybe less than GT6 (of course many of those are fictional)

Even if you do pay full price every two years for a new game (few do) that's still a lot of tracks for $30 a year.

ncasolowork2 > Bakkster, touring car driver
04/09/2014 at 14:43

Like I said I think they do a current members promo in May and at Thanksgiving.

ncasolowork2 > Saf1
04/09/2014 at 14:45

Nurburgring would take their entire track development team more than a year to develop at the cost of all other tracks. 8 tracks vs. 1 track plus the license cost and the actual logistics of scanning the track. It is the most requested track by so many people who are ignorant to what it would actually take to produce the track. It is one of those "it'll never happen" deals.

pfftballer > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:45

So how many driver points did you lose for that race? I saw what looked like some contact around the one minute mark and I saw you go four tires off track once as well.

ncasolowork2 > pfftballer
04/09/2014 at 14:56

The race was actually a "hosted race" a "private lobby" if you will so it didn't affect my ratings. With that said I believe I got 1 incident point for an off track, but no points for contact as we came close but either didn't touch or touched lightly enough that it counted as 0 points. Harder contact would count as 4 incident points. Even still over a 20 minute race like that 5 incident points would be about a break even for someone with the highest safety rating you can achieve.

iFap4DaytonaCoupes > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 14:58

hahaha! I am an iRacing lover but my tastes are opposite to you! I love the heavy gearbox feeling cars - both lotus 49 and 79 and the Mustang. Really enjoying the Ruf Cup version right now - though it's flappy paddle, since it requires a true blip on downshifts to not spin the darn thing. and I LOVE Phillip Island - but you're right about interlagos - might be the iRacing physics OR just that it's not IRL though because those corners require such a "butt in seat" feel to get them right - I don't see real world racers making mistakes in the same places at Interlagos. When they can "feel the car" weight shift its probably easier.

ncasolowork2 > iFap4DaytonaCoupes
04/09/2014 at 15:01

I actually ran the Lotus 79 for quite a while and really enjoyed it. The transmission worked a bit differently when I raced it consistently. Problem was the lack of competition. There were 2 or 3 people faster than me and maybe 1 or 2 people at my level and few official races.

I run triple screens with the virtual monitor turned off. As a result I rely on the in car mirrors and the tin tops don't do a very good job of that. I do like the Daytona Prototype though.

iFap4DaytonaCoupes > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 15:10

now that' it has NTMV5 it's awesome... set your rear camber to rediculous levels and that makes it easier for a noob.

ncasolowork2 > FoxFive0
04/09/2014 at 15:11

Just as a follow-up. I did speak to iRacing's marketing guy and I'll be getting a few 1 month free membership promos. If you're interested in trying it (for free) email me rterps@charter.net

ncasolowork2 > quarterlifecrisis
04/09/2014 at 15:12

Just as a follow-up. I did speak to iRacing's marketing guy and I'll be getting a few 1 month free membership promos. If you're interested in trying it email me and I'll email you a code once I have it. (later today I would expect)

pfftballer > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 15:16

That's why I quit on Iracing. It may have been my shitty wheel I was using but I couldn't tell where my limits of grip were and the car would seemingly spin without warning. On the more expensive wheels with force feedback is there anything you "feel" to warn you that you're at or about to exceed your limit? I actually hold a SCCA club racing license so it's not that I can't drive, but to watch me on that game you'd think I was the shittiest driver on earth. I quit when my rating dropped below 1 lol.

ncasolowork2 > 472CID
04/09/2014 at 15:21

Forza's real world non-oval tracks are

Circuit de Catalunya

Spa Fancorchamps

Le Mans

Laguna Seca

Mount Panorama

Road Atlanta

Sebring

Silverstone

Yas Marina

9 tracks. Just like Forza has multiple layouts so does iRacing. 9 tracks on iRacing with a 25% bulk discount would run you $94.55 If you buy $100 in credits for $75 that will run you $75 with some left over. There are a number of ways to do the math in the end the sticker shock that scares a lot of people away isn't really fair because iRacing isn't your typical game and isn't structured like your typical game.

I'd also argue that anyone into sim racing would likely buy collectors editions of the games. I know I did before I got in to iRacing. What surprised me is that I liked iRacing so much I didn't even buy Forza 4. This coming from someone who interviewed for a job with Turn 10.

ncasolowork2 > THEEsnowjob
04/09/2014 at 15:24

I won't say never, but since it isn't circuit racing I don't know if that's iRacings thing. There isn't much in iRacing in the way of hot lapping (which is essentially what Pikes Peak would be). It is more about racing and Pikes Peak is a pure time trial. It would be cool and I think the members would be on board, but I'm thinking the production time for something that can't be raced (which is how iRacing structures their season championships) I doubt it. Oh yeah... iRacing awards championship points for each race and you compete in a season long championship. It isn't perfect, but any league racing you've done on consoles is done on a much larger scale on iRacing.

ncasolowork2 > pfftballer
04/09/2014 at 15:29

I started with a Fanatec Porsche Wheel Turbo S. I went to a Logitech G27 and have used a Logitech DFGT. IMO you need force feedback, but the quality of it doesn't really matter. With that said a lot of oval drivers don't use any FFB.

I've done racing games for a long time. Never done anything on a real track (despite desperately wanting to) so I've probably got an advantage over you at finding virtual limits with more limited feedback. With that said certain cars suck because they're not on racing tires. Controlling them isn't easy. I would aruge the current MX-5 is easy to drive, but then again I've learned about 20 degrees of throttle precision from driving the iRacing F1 car. The thing about certain cars at various stages of car physics they don't brake well unless it is in a straight line. They don't accelerate at full throttle unless you're pointed straight. The real place you're probably lacking feedback is probably from your throttle pedal and maybe a bit from your brakes.

FormerInstants > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 15:29

"In car adjustments are available. Things such as diff settings on the F1 car, brake bias, Weight Jacker on an Indy Car etc.

Are these not in Forza? Because they are in Gran Turismo. Granted, not to the same extent that they are in iRacing, but I'd be surprised if they're *not* in Forza, let alone iRacing.

ncasolowork2 > TheCrudMan
04/09/2014 at 15:30

In case I forgot to mention it I will be getting sent a few promo codes for 1 month free. I sent an email to the iRacing head of marketing and pointed him to the jalopnik front page and asked him if he could send me a few codes for people who were interested in trying out iRacing. He said he would generate a few and send me some. So yeah. If you're interested email me rterps@charter.net and once I get the codes I'll send you one.

User1312 > Bakkster, touring car driver
04/09/2014 at 15:33

Oooohhh, well that makes more sense. Most of the other models have some sort of racing suffix added onto the title. Figured it was a bone stock Kia...

ncasolowork2 > FormerInstants
04/09/2014 at 15:35

I am not aware of anything you can do while on track on the fly in Forza. It would actually be news to me if it was added to Gran Turismo. So in GT6 in the Indy Car you can adjust the weight jacker from one corner to the next? That's a HUGE thing for indianapolis as fuel burns off and tires wear and if you're behind another car.

ncasolowork2 > FormerInstants
04/09/2014 at 15:36

I did forget to add iRacing's maximum field size is 64 drivers and most races are ~20-30 cars.

FrederickLawOlmsteez > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 15:36

What's an average priced rig cost? Do I need some fancy computer with dual 3d cards or can an average machine run it well?

Grant Leavitt > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 15:37

SimRaceway is another great sim. Dunno much about, even though i've tried it. However, there are few cars you can use without buying access to them (typcial online game BS). Last i was on, I saw the only car available was a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX or X.

The track selection is great, and unlike iRacing, contains some fictional tracks as well.

Bakkster, touring car driver > User1312
04/09/2014 at 15:39

They start with a stock car and heavily modify it. I'm guessing they didn't add a racing suffix because they don't sell customer versions.

ncasolowork2 > FrederickLawOlmsteez
04/09/2014 at 15:39

iRacing came out 6 years ago. They've not updated their system requirements. You can have an older PC and run things on reduced graphics or a new PC and run 5 monitors (I run 3). As a rule of thumb any PC with gaming in mind will run iRacing easily even if it is 5 years old. On a single screen it should even run it at or above 60fps. If it is a run of the mill Dell with no dedicated graphics card you might need an upgrade there to run it OK. Like I've mentioned to a few other people if you'd like to try it out email me. I'll be getting a few free 1 month trials. You can see how well it runs on your system just by spectating a race or by doing some racing on your own. (rterps@charter.net)

ncasolowork2 > Grant Leavitt
04/09/2014 at 15:40

I've also heard good things about SimRaceway. I've heard it is more for hot lappers though. That's definitely not a bad thing because on some of the old Forza 2 weekly hot lap challenges I would spend hours trying to set that best time.

FormerInstants > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 15:42

Well, like I said, not to the same extent as in iRacing (and there are no Indy Cars in GT6). But as of GT5, you could adjust TCS, Center-diff bias, ABS on/off, and brake bias in-race.

ncasolowork2 > FormerInstants
04/09/2014 at 15:44

Interesting. I wasn't aware they had added that. As an aside iRacing is going to add TCS in 2 weeks. Not an on/off TCS like you'd see in one of the older Forza games, but one of the complex TCS's like you'd see a professional race team have. When they licensed the cars that race with TCS the teams they licensed the cars from wouldn't disclose their TCS coding. So iRacing spent about 6 months to develop one of their own. That comes out on a bunch of cars in their next major update.

FormerInstants > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 15:45

Now that's awesome! That's one thing that bothers me about Forza, they haven't bothered to get fields bigger than 8. At least GT5&6 have 16.

My dream is to see a game support a 220 car field in a Nurburgring 24 Hour race.

ncasolowork2 > FormerInstants
04/09/2014 at 15:49

I believe Forza did make 16 recently.

iRacing does some "event" races. Like since they have the entire NASCAR season they have 4 dedicated time slots every weekend to the NASCAR race of that weekend and it is half distance. However Daytona and Charlotte are the full 500/600 miles.

They've got something for Road racing but it is a hodge podge of cars/tracks. Since the ELMS or WEC is at Silverstone for a 6 hour race this weekend iRacing is running their LMP2 car a GT1 car and a GT3 car together in a race at Silverstone. It'll be 43 car grids and there are 4 time slots so you're pretty much guaranteed 200-400 people will show up for each time slot. They then split the grids based on skill (there's a rating system that determines that which can't really be gamed) and off you go.

FormerInstants > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 15:52

That's interesting. Did they not have TCS at all before? I haven't gotten in to iRacing because I don't have time to commit to make the investment worthwhile.

ncasolowork2 > FormerInstants
04/09/2014 at 15:58

Correct. They didn't have it at all. There were no driver aids on iRacing, but they have tried to make it more accessible for some commercial projects (the NASCAR Hall of Fame runs iRacing) so they do have a virtual racing line and things like that now. The TCS though is for true to life cars that use it.

Like I've told some others in the discussion. If you're interested in trying iRacing let me know. iRacing is sending me a few 1 month free membership promos because Jalopnik cross posted this. I'm headed home here in a few minutes but email rterps@charter.net if you want a promo code and I'll send it once I have it. You'd be surprised how much or little time you can invest in it. Right now I'm doing that road racing event series I mentioned. There are 20 weeks in the year where they have races so 20 out of 52 weeks I'm spending about 30-60 minutes practicing Monday through Thursday and then racing a couple times on the weekend. With a 1 year old in the house I don't have time for more than that.

Grant Leavitt > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 16:07

I tried it myself, and even in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X, I spun out at every corner, despite braking before the corner and all. Guess that's what I get for using a keyboard to drive lololol. But the car list is something made of awesome. They just released the McLaren M8C Can-Am racer, get it for $5 USD. (like I said, typical online game BS about having to buy access to cars. But I think they do sales on car collections every now and then.)

2FastYSoSerious > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
04/09/2014 at 16:08

MP ya. But AC > iRacing as far as physics and force feedback.

FormerInstants > ncasolowork2
04/09/2014 at 16:19

Honestly I just never saw what I'd get out of iRacing over GT5/6, SimRaceway, F1 2012/3, etc. All I really wanted to do with it was drive a few interesting cars on a few interesting tracks every once in a while (particularly VIR and Summit Point, my "local" tracks), but to do that would cost at least $60 for three months with a very limited set of cars and tracks, which seems ludicrous. I know it's the best sim around, but I'm not at a level where I'd know the difference.